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we were sitting

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on the other side of the pier with our

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feet you know

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over toward the river fishing in the

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river

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the fish still wasn't biting so i told

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calvin as well

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you know we might well go home

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i guess that's when i heard it was some

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kind of zipping sound

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and when i turned around

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in this area here about

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there was some some kind of crap you

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know it was

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like it's going to come right onto the

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ground

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but it came on down and hovered about

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about a foot and a half or two feet off

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of the ground

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we didn't know what to do you know

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the river behind us and

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and uh that out there not knowing what

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it was

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so

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and then before we had time to really do

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anything it seemed like an open

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appearance

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and toward the end it was you know

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us

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the blue light it had blue flashing

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lights as it was you know approaching

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the ground but then they went out and

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when the opening appeared some source of

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light came from the inside it was just

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almost blinding

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of course we could sell them in in the

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or in the opening coming from you know

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when they started out the craft but do

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you think it was people coming out at

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first well they had they had uh

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i kind of thought it was people at first

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you know off like that but of course

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when they when they appeared there in

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front of me

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um

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it was the most shocked i've ever had in

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my life what did you see

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um well they

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they they were they were shorter than me

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i'd say about five foot two or three

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and they didn't have a neck

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the head it seemed to come directly to

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their shoulders

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and it had something uh that came out to

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a point about where my nose would be and

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and on each side the ears and i believe

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that they looked like they were a little

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longer on the ears than the nose but

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still pointed them they were still

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pointing yeah but it seemed to me when

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it came out that doorway or that opening

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or whatever it was

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then just almost instantly they were

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right there on us

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and uh their arms they had arms and i

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saw the arm moving here and in the

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shoulders but they had weld i mean their

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their fingers were weld and then they

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had something like a thumb and they were

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like this

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they had me

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one on this arm like this and on the

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other one you know they had my other one

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like that and they just i just seem to

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lift up to the same height they were off

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the ground and

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and we just moved into the crack now

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inside

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how did they how did they lay you out do

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you remember how it happened um yes uh

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they i didn't see any tables or chairs

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or anything in there i'm not saying it

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wasn't in there because the light was

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almost blinding but i didn't see any

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and when they when they carried me

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inside they seemed to just lean me back

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you know

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and uh this this eye well i keep

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referring to it as an eye and it moved

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up the in front of me about this close

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and it started right in my eyes looking

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at me right in the eye

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and it seemed it hesitated there for a

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few seconds and it just started moving

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over my entire body

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when they they brought me uh from the

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craft that put loneliness here here

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and they seem to they didn't drop me you

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know they just released me back to the

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ground

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and uh i fell i don't know why my legs

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were weak i don't know why it was the

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fright or what it was but i fell onto

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the ground

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and that's when i seen calvin he's

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standing right over here in this area

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and he was standing facing the river

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with his arms outstretched like that

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just like he was staring at something

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i think there has to be a reason why

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maybe because you could take it well it

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i don't know i think that they they know

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more of what's going on down here on

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this everything we think

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i don't know they might have been

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you might say looking for somebody that

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that could um

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that could you might say hold up under

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this train

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and uh and convince people that you know

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that that there is another world and

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there's some kind of life on it well

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uh last year on october the 16th in the

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fall of the year calvin parker and

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myself we uh

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at that time we were employed by the fd

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walking son shipyard in pascagoula

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and sometime during the day on october

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11th we decided to go fishing after work

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something that i do you know quite often

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when i'm not working is fishing

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so after we got off work uh probably 4

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30 i think we were working nine hours a

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day we i came home and um

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get to get more fishing gear

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and we wouldn't go out in a boat because

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uh we were going to the banks of the

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river and fish from the banks first

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speckled rotten redfish

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so we tried we

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got our bait and we got to the river and

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tried several spots and the fish didn't

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seem to be biting

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so there was one more spot that we were

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going to try that

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in the past i caught fish there a lot of

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times at the old shaw peter shipyard

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it's no abandoned shipyard

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so we went um

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back up the river to the old shipyard

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and we're fishing for a pier off of the

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a walk you might see on that uh thanks

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to the river there

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and uh

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it did become dark by that time we do

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quite a bit of uh

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fishing after thought you know down here

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in that time of year

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so i don't know what attracted my

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attention for i had reached around to

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get more bait which was sitting behind

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us or

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i heard some kind of zipping like sound

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like uh air of

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a steam or somebody escaping from a pipe

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and as i turned around

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i saw some uh two blue flashing lights

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or either pull satan lights i'm not sure

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and it seemed like um it it was some

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type of craft and it seemed like it was

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almost down to the ground in

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in fact it was it seemed to be about a

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a couple of feet you know above the

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ground and just hovered there

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so kevin had turned by this time and you

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know he was looking at it too

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and really i didn't know what to do it

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just it just so just fell down there for

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a few minutes just and um

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and then almost immediately some type of

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opening appeared in the end that was

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taught us with what i assume would be

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the front end

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the the light that had come outside

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which is it was real real bright light

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and three things appeared in the doorway

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of the craft and they seemed to just

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glide out out of the craft they never

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touched the ground they seem to just

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glide across it must have been 25 or 30

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feet from us or or maybe a little

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further than that

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and they

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they came to us just glided over to us

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and then two of them took me

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by their arms from the side

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and one took hold of calvin and and um

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i seen calvin go limp and i didn't know

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it then but he had fainted

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so they um they carried me inside the

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craft and

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and the light was almost blinding inside

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in fact for about three or four days i

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had something like a bad welding flash

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in my eyes

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and i can't

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i can't recall i can't remember

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just what was on the inside simply

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because the light was so bright that i

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just couldn't could make out what it was

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but i didn't see any tables or chairs

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and the room seemed to be round of

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course that could have been because the

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light seemed to be growing from the

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walls and the overhead in the ceiling

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but they carried me what i guess about

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middle of the room and we would just

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seem to be suspended there i i couldn't

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move i didn't have any feelings no

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sensation of

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of any field and it seemed something

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like a big eye i keep referring to it as

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an eye because it was about signs for

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small baseball in the end it was focused

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toward me was a different color or

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different light

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and it seemed to come directly out from

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the wall and it came within six or eight

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inches of my face and

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and uh it remained there for a few

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minutes and then it

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went over my entire body

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i'm assuming it did because when it went

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down like this i seem to be suspended

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and the next time i see it it was coming

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back up over this way so i assume that

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it went over my entire body

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but it came back in front of my face and

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stayed there for a few more minutes and

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then it seemed to just go right back

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into the wall

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and these things that the the the way

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they were holding me i was elevated

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because they they weren't as tall as me

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and they were upright and i was elevated

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like this and i could see

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i could move my eyes on the thing i

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could move

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and i could see that they had released

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me and i don't know where they went

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whether they went outside the craft or

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another

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uh room or compartment but they didn't

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come in front of me

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and they left me that way for

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for a few minutes i don't know how long

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and then after a while they uh i seen a

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minute when they come back to the side

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of me and took hold on me again

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and they carried me back outside the

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craft and

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and we were still just gliding i wasn't

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touching anything that i know of

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and they seemed to just glide back out

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to where they had taken me from and put

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me back down on the ground

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but when they did i fell because my legs

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were weak and they gave way on me

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and it was this time i seen calvin again

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he was standing there

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he was standing facing the river with

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his arms outstretched and he was almost

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in shock

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or he seemed to appear to me at that

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time he was if something was wrong with

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him but so i was trying to to get to

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make my way toward him and and uh i was

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crawling i couldn't get my legs to

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working but before i got to him they i

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the strength of what it was came back to

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my legs and i was getting up on my feet

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and i heard that the same sound i heard

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before a zipping sound

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and i glanced around and i saw the blue

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flashing lights and and it was the crack

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was just cold it's just almost instantly

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and i i got to i made it to calvin and i

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shook him and was calling to him and it

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took me several minutes to get him where

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i could even even talk to him you know

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with any any sense and and he was going

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in shock

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and these things that uh that came out

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of the craft they were about

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five or five foot four inches tall

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and they didn't have a neck there uh

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the head seemed to come directly to the

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shoulders and they had something that

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resembled a nose

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on up on the face and and uh about where

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ears would be something that was similar

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to the nose when it was a little longer

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they seemed to come out almost to a

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point

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and under the nose it was something like

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a slit for a mouth and and uh it was

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very wrinkled and it seemed it appeared

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to me to be something like an elephant

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skin but i don't know where it was

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a metal or what it was but it seemed to

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be very wrinkles with the wrinkles

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running horizontal

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and in the area where the eyes should

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have been

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uh it was so wrinkled that

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that i'm not even sure there was eyes i

324
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don't recall but there was any eyes

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nothing calvin says he came

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but um

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anyway after i i broke i got counted

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when i could talk to him we didn't know

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what to do and and uh

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we were almost scared to death and

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we we first decided we wouldn't tell

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anyone but the more we talked about it

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the more we realized that we had to tell

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somebody if it was the military

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authorities if nobody else so

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we call

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keisler air force base which is only

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about well obviously about 30 miles

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south of here

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and i talked to someone there and they

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told me that the air force didn't handle

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those things anymore that we would have

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to go

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through our insurance department

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then we hesitated again because you know

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you go to the

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people just something like that is not

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supposed to happen and when you would

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probably be laughed at and ridiculed

350
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but we we talked it over again and

351
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decided we would call the sheriff's

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department and the sheriff fred diamond

353
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told us to come on over there that we

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talked about it

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so we stayed there for several hours

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talking with them with them questions

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and uh the sheriff promised me that it

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wouldn't it wouldn't any news familiar

359
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know anything about it that he would try

360
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to get get it to the proper authorities

361
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if he could find out who the proper

362
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authorities was

363
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and have it investigated

364
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so we went home that morning and it was

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morning because they had kept us very

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quite late

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and

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with assurance that no

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it wouldn't be any publicity about it at

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all

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well we we went on to work that morning

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and

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by seven or eight o'clock

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there was telephones ringing uh you know

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all over the shipyard

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and i called fred diamond and he said

377
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that he don't know how the story leaked

378
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out from the sheriff's department

379
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but uh you know that by that time the

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whole world knew about it you said

381
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something that was like an eye ran up

382
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and down your body do you think it was

383
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like examining you

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um

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yes it was something it had to be some

386
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type of examination well i say had to be

387
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it it appears to me that it would be and

388
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after talking with a lot of scientists

389
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and uh

390
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um i'm convinced that it was something

391
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it was there was some type of

392
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examination that it given me

393
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did you communicate with these creatures

394
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these things

395
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no

396
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and the only sound that they made they

397
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didn't attempt to communicate with me

398
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the only sound that that that they made

399
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one of them and i'm not even sure it

400
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come from from one of the things but it

401
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was some kind of moment like sound a

402
00:13:37,910 --> 00:13:36,160
little mumbling sound from one of them

403
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but other than that they they didn't try

404
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to communicate i tried to

405
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to say something to them aboard the

406
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craft

407
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but uh

408
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it

409
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i think now and then i have a lot of

410
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reasons to believe many a different

411
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reason to believe these things were

412
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robots they weren't beings they were

413
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being controlled by beings from

414
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somewhere else what made you think that

415
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sir well for

416
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for it's a video just mentioned several

417
00:14:04,870 --> 00:14:01,279
reasons

418
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i didn't see any movement of of breath

419
00:14:10,389 --> 00:14:07,519
in the in the chest area i didn't see

420
00:14:12,150 --> 00:14:10,399
any movement of breath in them in the

421
00:14:13,110 --> 00:14:12,160
the slip of the mouth here it didn't

422
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move

423
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is something mechanically

424
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they can move their arms like this

425
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and in their shoulders but their head

426
00:14:26,629 --> 00:14:24,160
didn't move and when they move they seem

427
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to turn as if mechanically

428
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it appeared to me that they they had

429
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something that they were programmed you

430
00:14:34,629 --> 00:14:32,240
might say to do something they had

431
00:14:36,069 --> 00:14:34,639
something specific to do and they just

432
00:14:37,750 --> 00:14:36,079
simply done it and their attention

433
00:14:40,470 --> 00:14:37,760
wasn't distracting one way or the other

434
00:14:43,430 --> 00:14:40,480
did their examination of you hurt you no

435
00:14:44,949 --> 00:14:43,440
no the only only physical pain that i

436
00:14:46,710 --> 00:14:44,959
had is when when

437
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they took hold of me there on the base

438
00:14:49,990 --> 00:14:48,000
of the river

439
00:14:52,310 --> 00:14:50,000
the one that took hold of my left arm

440
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and this arm here just instantly i felt

441
00:14:57,670 --> 00:14:54,880
pain but it was gone just that quick

442
00:14:59,829 --> 00:14:57,680
and then once the ball aboard the craft

443
00:15:02,389 --> 00:14:59,839
one time i felt this

444
00:15:04,069 --> 00:15:02,399
the same pain in the same area again but

445
00:15:05,910 --> 00:15:04,079
it was just instantly and that's the

446
00:15:08,069 --> 00:15:05,920
only physical pain that i had through

447
00:15:10,829 --> 00:15:08,079
the entire thing now approximately how

448
00:15:13,750 --> 00:15:10,839
long do you figure you were in the craft

449
00:15:15,910 --> 00:15:13,760
itself well i'm not sure

450
00:15:18,150 --> 00:15:15,920
because i don't wear a watch a watch

451
00:15:20,870 --> 00:15:18,160
won't keep time on me

452
00:15:21,990 --> 00:15:20,880
and calvin didn't have a watch and

453
00:15:24,310 --> 00:15:22,000
we um

454
00:15:26,389 --> 00:15:24,320
we've tried to go back and uh i've tried

455
00:15:27,990 --> 00:15:26,399
to go back and try to figure the time

456
00:15:30,310 --> 00:15:28,000
out from the time that

457
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that we left the area going to call it

458
00:15:36,710 --> 00:15:32,639
keisler air force base and all and it

459
00:15:38,470 --> 00:15:36,720
could have possibly been as long as um

460
00:15:39,350 --> 00:15:38,480
well it could have been anywhere from 30

461
00:15:41,350 --> 00:15:39,360
minutes

462
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to an hour and probably even longer than

463
00:15:44,790 --> 00:15:42,800
that can you give our listeners some

464
00:15:47,749 --> 00:15:44,800
idea of the size of this craft that you

465
00:15:49,189 --> 00:15:47,759
were suspended with that well the crab

466
00:15:51,189 --> 00:15:49,199
uh

467
00:15:53,189 --> 00:15:51,199
let me explain now the angle that i was

468
00:15:55,350 --> 00:15:53,199
looking forward to crying it's hard for

469
00:15:57,829 --> 00:15:55,360
me to say which i can't say

470
00:16:00,069 --> 00:15:57,839
holy crap or shroud like a ditch or

471
00:16:01,110 --> 00:16:00,079
whether it was long or oblong like a

472
00:16:03,590 --> 00:16:01,120
cigar

473
00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:03,600
because i it was it was

474
00:16:08,550 --> 00:16:05,680
let me give you an example like the

475
00:16:10,069 --> 00:16:08,560
craft was sitting here we're assuming

476
00:16:11,829 --> 00:16:10,079
that this is the front end of it that

477
00:16:13,990 --> 00:16:11,839
was the end it was tortoise

478
00:16:16,629 --> 00:16:14,000
well i'm looking at it from this angle

479
00:16:18,389 --> 00:16:16,639
so all i can see is what is this side of

480
00:16:20,790 --> 00:16:18,399
what i'm assuming to be the front and

481
00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:20,800
maybe it's a little bit of the mat so i

482
00:16:26,150 --> 00:16:23,360
can't be sure whether the craft was was

483
00:16:28,150 --> 00:16:26,160
round like a desk or was long or oblong

484
00:16:29,829 --> 00:16:28,160
but it appeared to me it was about 30 or

485
00:16:31,189 --> 00:16:29,839
40 foot long

486
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and maybe

487
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um eight or ten foot high

488
00:16:39,350 --> 00:16:37,279
well it hasn't affected me i don't think

489
00:16:42,389 --> 00:16:39,360
it has it has affected my life because i

490
00:16:44,150 --> 00:16:42,399
know and now i don't have time to

491
00:16:46,790 --> 00:16:44,160
for a recreation that that i did have

492
00:16:50,069 --> 00:16:46,800
before with my wife and my children

493
00:16:52,069 --> 00:16:50,079
and uh there's always um that there's so

494
00:16:53,749 --> 00:16:52,079
many interviews and there's so many

495
00:16:56,230 --> 00:16:53,759
places that i go in the country which

496
00:16:57,670 --> 00:16:56,240
i'd rather be home with my family

497
00:16:59,590 --> 00:16:57,680
and

498
00:17:01,269 --> 00:16:59,600
shortly afterwards for a few months i

499
00:17:03,350 --> 00:17:01,279
didn't i couldn't sleep and i couldn't

500
00:17:06,470 --> 00:17:03,360
eat i could was hold my mind all the

501
00:17:08,309 --> 00:17:06,480
time but the fears all gone now you know

502
00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:08,319
it's just um

503
00:17:11,829 --> 00:17:10,240
it's just not as much fear as it was

504
00:17:14,630 --> 00:17:11,839
before have you had any recurring

505
00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:14,640
nightmares about this uh shortly after i

506
00:17:19,110 --> 00:17:16,240
did yes but

507
00:17:20,150 --> 00:17:19,120
that's all going on and then i might add

508
00:17:21,829 --> 00:17:20,160
that uh

509
00:17:23,429 --> 00:17:21,839
we uh

510
00:17:25,669 --> 00:17:23,439
we asked

511
00:17:26,549 --> 00:17:25,679
the sheriff at night

512
00:17:28,549 --> 00:17:26,559
uh

513
00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:28,559
because after we decided to tell the

514
00:17:32,230 --> 00:17:30,559
sheriff certainly we wanted to to prove

515
00:17:33,750 --> 00:17:32,240
to him that it did happen so we asked

516
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for a lie detector test they didn't have

517
00:17:39,909 --> 00:17:36,559
the facilities here in jackson county

518
00:17:42,150 --> 00:17:39,919
so later on in the

519
00:17:44,950 --> 00:17:42,160
i think it was either the latter part of

520
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october or the early part of november

521
00:17:49,669 --> 00:17:47,120
uh calvin had had a nervous breakdown

522
00:17:52,950 --> 00:17:49,679
because i think because of this he was

523
00:17:55,990 --> 00:17:52,960
in a hospital in in jones county

524
00:17:57,990 --> 00:17:56,000
uh i took a polygraph test

525
00:18:00,390 --> 00:17:58,000
here in pascagoula

526
00:18:01,750 --> 00:18:00,400
which proved that i was telling

527
00:18:03,270 --> 00:18:01,760
the truth

528
00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:03,280
you said your friend calvin is at a

529
00:18:07,029 --> 00:18:04,960
nervous breakdown yes he had a he had

530
00:18:09,110 --> 00:18:07,039
another breakdown and he remained a

531
00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:09,120
while in the hospital but he's okay now

532
00:18:12,310 --> 00:18:10,400
he's

533
00:18:14,630 --> 00:18:12,320
you don't seem to be too affected by

534
00:18:15,590 --> 00:18:14,640
outwardly

535
00:18:16,710 --> 00:18:15,600
well

536
00:18:20,230 --> 00:18:16,720
the

537
00:18:22,789 --> 00:18:20,240
calvin is quite a bit younger than me

538
00:18:25,270 --> 00:18:22,799
and calvin had never known much fear

539
00:18:27,909 --> 00:18:25,280
but i've known fear a lot of times not

540
00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:27,919
nothing like that but i was in uh in

541
00:18:31,990 --> 00:18:30,160
combating career in fact i was in career

542
00:18:33,350 --> 00:18:32,000
about 20 months and 16 days in the

543
00:18:36,230 --> 00:18:33,360
korean war

544
00:18:37,270 --> 00:18:36,240
and i've known fear many times before

545
00:18:39,270 --> 00:18:37,280
and

546
00:18:40,710 --> 00:18:39,280
unless that was the reason that caused

547
00:18:43,029 --> 00:18:40,720
me to hold up better than calvin you

548
00:18:45,430 --> 00:18:43,039
know i don't know speaking of fear were

549
00:18:47,669 --> 00:18:45,440
you afraid during this entire thing i

550
00:18:49,270 --> 00:18:47,679
certainly was and now

551
00:18:51,590 --> 00:18:49,280
i can explain that

552
00:18:53,350 --> 00:18:51,600
uh normal what i consider normal fear to

553
00:18:55,350 --> 00:18:53,360
be is something that

554
00:18:57,190 --> 00:18:55,360
that you expect you know just normal

555
00:18:58,470 --> 00:18:57,200
fear is something that you expect you

556
00:19:00,630 --> 00:18:58,480
only serve

557
00:19:02,789 --> 00:19:00,640
but this was something that uh wasn't

558
00:19:04,470 --> 00:19:02,799
supposed to even exist

559
00:19:05,990 --> 00:19:04,480
and it's fear that you can't even

560
00:19:08,150 --> 00:19:06,000
explain

561
00:19:09,350 --> 00:19:08,160
because i kept thinking you know that

562
00:19:11,669 --> 00:19:09,360
what are they gonna do are they going to

563
00:19:13,750 --> 00:19:11,679
take us away or are they going to kill

564
00:19:14,710 --> 00:19:13,760
us or they're going to take us away and

565
00:19:16,390 --> 00:19:14,720
uh

566
00:19:18,390 --> 00:19:16,400
well in fact when they carry me aboard

567
00:19:21,110 --> 00:19:18,400
that craft i figured that that that i've

568
00:19:22,950 --> 00:19:21,120
never put my foot on earth again but you

569
00:19:24,470 --> 00:19:22,960
never see a family i never see my family

570
00:19:25,990 --> 00:19:24,480
anymore

571
00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:26,000
what is your feeling on youtube do you

572
00:19:29,590 --> 00:19:28,720
think of his life beyond this earth

573
00:19:31,510 --> 00:19:29,600
well

574
00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:31,520
let me let me explain now before this

575
00:19:35,830 --> 00:19:33,840
happened to me i can't say that i

576
00:19:37,990 --> 00:19:35,840
believed or displayed

577
00:19:40,310 --> 00:19:38,000
because i simply didn't know didn't

578
00:19:42,470 --> 00:19:40,320
think about it one way or the other

579
00:19:44,789 --> 00:19:42,480
i guess i'm like most people i had my

580
00:19:47,270 --> 00:19:44,799
own little world that i lived in and i

581
00:19:49,270 --> 00:19:47,280
didn't consider the life on other worlds

582
00:19:52,710 --> 00:19:49,280
i didn't think about it

583
00:19:55,110 --> 00:19:52,720
but now there's no doubt in my mind i

584
00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:55,120
positively know that there's uh

585
00:19:58,950 --> 00:19:57,039
at least one world up there somewhere

586
00:20:01,190 --> 00:19:58,960
with some type of life one i meant to be

587
00:20:02,230 --> 00:20:01,200
in fact an intelligent but peaceful life

588
00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:02,240
that's right

589
00:20:06,630 --> 00:20:04,880
i think they're peaceful because um

590
00:20:08,470 --> 00:20:06,640
you know they didn't know

591
00:20:09,590 --> 00:20:08,480
they didn't try to harm calvin and me

592
00:20:11,830 --> 00:20:09,600
physically

593
00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:11,840
uh in fact they seemed to be very easy

594
00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:12,880
with us

595
00:20:16,630 --> 00:20:15,200
uh what they wanted i don't know

596
00:20:17,909 --> 00:20:16,640
but i certainly don't think that they're

597
00:20:20,070 --> 00:20:17,919
hospital

598
00:20:21,110 --> 00:20:20,080
at all would you advocate our government

599
00:20:23,270 --> 00:20:21,120
trying to

600
00:20:26,070 --> 00:20:23,280
communicate or contact these individuals

601
00:20:27,590 --> 00:20:26,080
these beings to help us on our planet

602
00:20:29,350 --> 00:20:27,600
well certainly

603
00:20:31,510 --> 00:20:29,360
since this has happened to me i've i've

604
00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:31,520
done i've done all the research and um

605
00:20:34,789 --> 00:20:33,120
and all the reading on these things that

606
00:20:37,669 --> 00:20:34,799
i can i've talked with many scientists

607
00:20:38,950 --> 00:20:37,679
and doctors and people that is concerned

608
00:20:40,789 --> 00:20:38,960
i think the government should have been

609
00:20:43,190 --> 00:20:40,799
doing a long time ago

610
00:20:44,630 --> 00:20:43,200
because um as wasteful as our government

611
00:20:46,870 --> 00:20:44,640
is and they're spending the money that

612
00:20:48,549 --> 00:20:46,880
they've simply thrown away so that money

613
00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:48,559
could have been used to try to maybe

614
00:20:51,430 --> 00:20:50,080
come take intelligent life on other

615
00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:51,440
walls and probably could have already

616
00:20:54,789 --> 00:20:52,799
been done

617
00:20:58,070 --> 00:20:54,799
one of the arguments that the government

618
00:21:00,470 --> 00:20:58,080
always gives is that if they reveal

619
00:21:02,310 --> 00:21:00,480
the presence of ufos it would cause

620
00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:02,320
widespread panic and fear a lot of the

621
00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:04,640
war of the worlds broadcast of awesome

622
00:21:09,029 --> 00:21:06,320
worlds many years ago do you you agree

623
00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:09,039
with that well to a certain extent now i

624
00:21:12,470 --> 00:21:11,440
agree that that may be years years ago

625
00:21:15,590 --> 00:21:12,480
yes

626
00:21:17,669 --> 00:21:15,600
but i think that the fact is out now and

627
00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:17,679
and honey i honestly believe this i

628
00:21:21,750 --> 00:21:19,360
don't think that the air force has

629
00:21:23,029 --> 00:21:21,760
abandoned the ufo studies i think that

630
00:21:25,669 --> 00:21:23,039
they have um

631
00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:25,679
i think that they have a definite proof

632
00:21:29,190 --> 00:21:28,240
that other other uh wealth and bins do

633
00:21:31,270 --> 00:21:29,200
exist

634
00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:31,280
and i think before this year is out and

635
00:21:38,390 --> 00:21:36,549
well

636
00:21:41,029 --> 00:21:38,400
with some reservation but

637
00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:41,039
uh i think before the year is out

638
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:44,080
that our government is going to uh a

639
00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:45,840
particular air force is going to come

640
00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:46,640
out

641
00:21:49,750 --> 00:21:48,000
to the american people and tell them

642
00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:49,760
that these things do exist but they're i

643
00:21:53,190 --> 00:21:51,120
think they're going to do it in a way

644
00:21:54,549 --> 00:21:53,200
where they won't cause mastery like you

645
00:21:57,190 --> 00:21:54,559
just mentioned